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Myths and Facts

By Mike Niggli



Thursday, Sept. 13, 2007 | Like any large project, the Sunrise Powerlink has its fair share of myths floating out there. Some raise legitimate questions, while others are simply wild accusations. Here are some of the myths I hear most, along with the facts to set the record straight.

Myth #1:

  • Building new, local power plants is a better option than the Sunrise Powerlink.

    Fact:

  • New state laws mandating more renewable power and fewer greenhouse gas emissions mean SDG&E can't continue relying exclusively on power plants that use fossil fuels. We need more renewable energy. The Sunrise Powerlink will connect San Diego to proposed solar, wind and geothermal energy projects in the Imperial Valley area and help California meet its clean-energy goals.

    Myth #2

  • If solar panels were put on enough rooftops, we wouldn't need the Sunrise Powerlink.

    Fact:

  • Rooftop solar will play a critical role in San Diego's future, but it's not enough to meet our customers' energy needs. To match the Sunrise Powerlink, you'd have to install 2,000 megawatts of solar panels on 855,000 residential rooftops at a cost of $21 billion.

    Myth #3

  • The Sunrise Powerlink was proposed to connect power plants in Mexicali, Mexico to consumers in Los Angeles.

    Fact:

  • The two power plants in Mexicali are already delivering power to California using existing transmission lines. These power plants don't need the Sunrise Powerlink. Also, the Sunrise Powerlink terminates in San Diego, not Los Angeles.

    Myth #4

  • The Sunrise Powerlink will impact "designated wilderness" areas of the Anza-Borrego Desert State Park.

    Fact:

  • SDG&E has redesigned the line to stay within the existing transmission corridor in the desert where a power line has been strung for over 80 years. This option would result in zero impacts to "designated wilderness" areas. Tower heights on the Sunrise Powerlink also were reduced from an average of 135 feet to 99 feet.

    Myth #5

  • SDG&E can meet the state's 20 percent by 2010 renewable energy mandate without the Sunrise Powerlink.

    Fact:

  • Not true. There's simply not enough local renewable power available and little room on existing transmission lines to import green supplies from outside the region. To meet the mandate, new transmission lines to renewable-rich regions like the Imperial Valley area are needed. The California Energy Commission agrees.

    Myth #6

  • Why not just use the existing Southwest Powerlink to deliver renewable power from Imperial Valley?

    Fact:

  • About 300 megawatts of renewable power could be delivered to San Diego via the Southwest Powerlink, but that's not nearly enough to meet state requirements. The Sunrise Powerlink will provide access to 1,000 megawatts of solar, wind and geothermal energy.

    Myth #7

  • SDG&E withheld crucial information and changed its story on the Sunrise Powerlink, forcing the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) to delay release of the environmental studies by five months.

    Fact:

  • As it turns out, most of the "new" information the CPUC said it needed to study isn't new at all. In fact, much of it had been considered by the CPUC and is already in the official record and CPUC public documents. In a recent filing with the CPUC, SDG&E provided evidence that the delay is not warranted or needed. The CPUC has all the data it needs to release the draft environmental studies now.




    60 Comments so far on this story...

    Sorry Mike, you're way off on so many things. I'll let the Cafe vultures get ya, but rest assured there are too many of us out here that are sufficiently educated on the creativity you've applied to the facts to buy what you're selling. It'll be a fun EIR process.

    Posted by 2 cent jack | reply to this comment
    September 12, 2007 1:02 pm

    Let's quit fighting about Powerlink and just get it built! We need more electricity. Dont know about you, but bringing in clean solar and wind energy from Imperial Valley seems like a far better option than building more and more power plants in San Diego.

    Posted by sdgirl | reply to this comment
    September 12, 2007 1:29 pm

    Mike, is it true that if the Powerlink is built, SDG&E has no control over the power that is brought through that line? So it is correct to state that those renewables you so desperately need may not even go through Sunrise?

    Posted by CJ | reply to this comment
    September 12, 2007 1:44 pm

    File under My Excellent Energy Plan with the above: - Why not build a bunch of wave motors and hook them up to Chula Vista? - I hear there's a lot of sun in Iraq--how about putting up solar panels on the roof of that jillion-acre embassy and then we could still depend on Iraq for energy. What, put them on OUR roofs?

    Posted by Open mind | reply to this comment
    September 12, 2007 8:10 pm

    The true fact is SDGE wants to use the Sunrise Power Link as an extension cord to plug into Arizona's supply of power and is using "green power" as an excuse get Sunrise built. We wouldn't need a 500Kv line into San Diego if there was more local power generated. San Diegians need to become more self sufficient for their power consumption and stop relying so heavily on imported power.

    Posted by Mw | reply to this comment
    September 12, 2007 8:52 pm

    Stay out of our parkland.

    Posted by Larry | reply to this comment
    September 12, 2007 11:36 pm

    Just build this line. Years ago, the environmentalists and UCAN wanted a project just like this, but because SDGE is building it, they are against it. They hate SDGE -- no matter if the project is good. They mock and oppose everything SDGE does. We will be the ones who have trouble if this line isnt built!

    Posted by Dave J | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:02 am

    There is no need for the Powerlink at this point in time. Instead of spending all this money on a pipe dream, why not start incentivizing solar, peak meters, dual pane windows, etc.? Incentivize..don't devastate the land with this massive project. And by he way, maybe cities can slow down growth..that would help too. Rampant, unintelligent building all conributes to the the power use. Build green and that drain will slow down.

    Posted by Coastal girl | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:17 am

    Mr. Niggli: In addition to the debate over running the Sunrise Powerlink through parkland, the other big controversy I hear is that the electricity coming through the line is not guaranteed to be directed to San Diego, and that the power can easily be diverted to Los Angeles and points north. Is this true? If so, doesn't that mean that San Diego would not be out of the power shortage situation that you reference in your piece on here today?

    Posted by Robert E. Lee | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:19 am

    In a region that has all the sun and wind it needs, it is malpractice to intentionally plan to be dependent on others. SDGE needs to redirect lobbying time and money towards making us self-sufficient. CJ also makes a very good point.

    Posted by SD native | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:22 am

    OK folks, here's Mike the SDG&E guy saying we need his power line! Yay, a salesman. And can you believe it, he's trying to sell us his power -- almost like it was 'our power' that would 'empower' us just like the bogus marketing claim of 'Flex Your Power' as if we had any real power over these big time corporate special interests...What are their interests you ask...Well let's just ask their shareholders...let's ask Wall Street what happens to publicly traded companies who don't put their shareholders first...You ask what's the difference between shareholders and SDG&E customers? Well, SDG&E sells us power to make their shareholders money -- we are their chattel and the shareholders are the nobles making a killing off our so-called ability to flex our power. Mike is paid by the corporation to make it and shareholders money, not to empower you.

    Posted by Christopher Hall | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:25 am

    What Mike doesn't tell you is that Dick Cheney's secret energy committee, which is not so secret anymore, is largely responsible for getting large political agencies at the state and federal level to back private energy company claims of more power lines, more strip mines, more oil drilling, more energy consumption = more money for energy companies. This power line is for one thing only: to sell more power -- this at a time when conservation of energy is more important that consumption of energy! Furthermore, Mike isn't telling you we could put solar on more than 100,000 rooftops in San Diego for the price of this giant extension cord running through our back country because the power in the Sunrise Powerlink is NEVER stopping in little San Diego, but headed straight for the LA market. Sempra/ SDG&E want to expand their capacity to sell power.

    Posted by Christopher Hall | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:38 am

    Part 1: Tell the whole story, Mike! SDGE is going to use this line to transmit electricity produced by your natural-gas-fueled, air-polluting, beach-destroying power plants in Mexico. Check the facts: LNG is a fossil fuel; polluting the air and destroying beaches are not 'go[ing] green.'

    Posted by Cory Briggs | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:41 am

    sdgirl -- why don't you Sempra shills just quit fighting the citizens and shelve the Sunrise Powerlink JUST LIKE you shelved the Rainbow Powerlink just a few years ago? The Rainbow Powerlink died so you guys just came out and renamed it! What a rackett. sdgirl...

    Posted by Christopher Hall | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:47 am

    Part 2: And the renewables you mention will not get developed anytime soon (if ever) if this line is approved because SDGE/Sempra will lock up its transmission capacity through long-term contracts with dirty non-renewable electricity-producer (including Sempra's own in Mexico), thus giving SDGE a convenient legal excuse for not putting green energy on the line if the renewables becomes available. Why didn't you tell us those facts, Mike? You've got all day to get your PR staff and lawyers to help you respond on the record. You should use it.

    Posted by Cory Briggs | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:48 am

    The fact that we need more energy is not going to subside. The question is, do we take proactive action to deal with an infrastructural demand and build it the right way, or wait till it hits critical mass and do it the wrong way? I for one don’t want to wait till the last second and use temporary solutions that will negatively impact our county for generations. What does the future hold if we don’t build the Sunrise Powerlink?

    Posted by Reality Bites | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 12:57 am

    After all the lies that SDGE and its owners have done, after all the gouging and expenses that have been placed on the citizens of San Diego, this should be done for free without charging the citizens of San Diego County. How many people have withered through the scandals of price gouging? I still carry a bitter memory of the hardships brought to us from the this utility company. How many times have I read in the very biased for SDGE by the San Diego Union Tribune that SDGE needed upgrading thus increasing rates. Is this just another money making scheme by this utility company. I would love to hear UCAN'S side to this? If it weren't for UCAN, SDGE would have our rates soaring higher than they already are.

    Posted by Robin | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 1:03 am

    Conservation is dramatically more cost-effective than new transmission capacity, and also addresses global warming which capacity does not. Why not take these hundreds of millions of dollars and invest them in energy conservation projects instead?

    Posted by Aaron | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 1:15 am

    SDGE wants to tap into Arizona's "Valley of the Sun" which is a 9200MW power park 50 miles southwest of Phoenix. The average retail price in Arizona is 8.5cents/kWh vs. California at 14.5cents/kWh, which if they can get the permit for Sunrise, means greater profit for SDGE. By the way, they also own Mesquite Generating Station which is a 1250MW power plant in the same power park. They can buy their own energy and increase profits for Sempra even more!!

    Posted by Mw | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 1:22 am

    I wasn't sure what to think about the Sunrise Powerlink proposal, but reading your blog helped crystallize the issues for me. It's simply supply and demand. There is no question San Diego is growing very rapidly, which naturally will drive up demand. The new energy has to come from somewhere, and I prefer that it not come from a new power plant in my backyard.

    Posted by SD Keith | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 1:25 am

    Everybody wants clean renewable energy, but nobody wants to build the transmission to access it. San Diego County needs another link to the Imperial Valley to access renewables. Build Sunrise!"

    Posted by sunrise | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 1:38 am

    I don't dispute that we're gonna need more power in the future...but what I want to know is, how can you possibly spread the cost of this line across your san diego customer base without bankrupting all of us?

    Posted by eastcountian | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 1:50 am

    I'm responding to not only comments here -- but those on Channel 8 sometime back when people asked why they don't have power alerts in the midwest and elsewhere. The answer is: they build the necessary powerlines. And the people in the midwest and out east use much more AC than we do, so its not conservation. With all the housing in East San Diego County thats been built, AC usage here is growing -- and please don't ask us to suffer thru the heat while you sit next to the cool coast. But tell you what... I'll conserve, I'll support solar, but please just build this powerline.

    Posted by Michael S. | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 1:56 am

    When will people in San Diego wake up? This is vital infrastructure. This county has practically doubled in the last quarter century -- but in that same 25 years, not one single major transmission line has been built. It cost $12,000 to outfit a single family home with solar. And all the other schemes, like wave machines, won't answer the need. It's like saying, lets get rid of the freeways, because "we beleive" everyone will take the bus. And the portion of the line goes thru the park? There is already a line there!! Everyone against this line better get rid of their big TVs, their microwaves and all the gadgets they charge up at home.

    Posted by Yours Truely....BP | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 2:02 am

    If people could, for just one second, put aside their distrust of SDG&E and corporate America, they just might see that the Sunrise Powerlink is actually a pretty good plan. It's certainly better than relying solely on power plants, whicn no one wants in their backyard. I love the idea of rooftop solar but it's just not feasible at this point, and won't be in time to meet the 2010 mandate. Let's get it approved in the best possible route, take advantage of the sun and wind in Imperial Valley, and reap the benefits. We need electricity, period. And we need it sooner, not later.

    Posted by Keen | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 2:05 am

    And one more thing, the conspiracy theorists who hate the project...how do they actually know what they're talking about? It looks to me like they're just throwing things against the wall to see what might stick. Show me proof of what you say, instead of empty words.

    Posted by keen | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 2:14 am

    SDG&E's credibility has been hurt by its actions during last week's heatwave. SDG&E declared that it faced "the loss of one of the largest generators" in the region. Instead it turns out that one local generator lost just one of its five boilers for just one hour, and we never even got to a stage 1 alert, much less the state 3 rolling blackouts SDG&E cried wolf over.

    Posted by Watcher | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 2:33 am

    Sempra Energy, having been busted by the CPUC for rigging the natural gas market during the energy crisis, is proposing to sell SDG&E its existing natural gas plant in Henderson, Nevada at a $150 million discount. The Nevada plant isn't making money for Sempra because Nevada Power and Sierra Pacific won't contract for independent power, preferring to build their own new coal plants in Ely, Nevada. So Sempra plans to unload its white elephant plant on SDG&E, and Sunrise is needed to import that fossil fuel power here. Don't buy into SDG&E's greenwashing of this project.

    Posted by Watcher | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 2:33 am

    Why doesn't SDG & E help reduce consumption instead of fueling it. Why not provide retrofit of SOLAR to industries and residences that qualify. For instance, I bet you just love it when someone has to put in pool, even if it is for health reasons, because those meters just spin and spin. They take a consumer from Tier 1 and 2 to Tier 4 and it is still the same energy, you just make more profit from it. Cime on. Get out there in the forefront and help design systems that drastically reduce demand. Those systems could power pool pumps, air conditioners, etc. But I forgot, it is really all about profit, isn't it. The individual solar contractors just want too much money, even with the state rebates, to make it cost-effective.

    Posted by San Marcos says | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 2:43 am

    If California is going green, San Diego should take part and build the Sunrise Powerlink. San Diego will be linked to a vast amount of renewable power that otherwise we would not be able to access. With the state mandate that requires utilities to generate 20 percent of their power from renewable resources by 2010 fast approaching, we need to get Sunrise Powerlink built now.

    Posted by Oscar | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 2:50 am

    Hey folks: there's light at the end of the tunnel, and its an oncoming train! Right now our regional power system is like an extension cord and we keep adding appliances to it. Doesn't it make sense to add another line. And to whoever said it above: the cost is spread out over the whole state, not San Diego. Also to the above responders: solar retrofits are a drop in the bucket and conservation alone wont cut it. We need another powerline. Lastly, don't swallow everything UCAN says. They may have won your heart with their gasoline crusade, but when it comes to electricity they are an avowed enemy of the power companies. Don't hurt the future of this region by ignoring the facts. Build the sunrise powerlink!

    Posted by Big Dave in Mission Hills | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:04 am

    You can't please all of the people all of the time. Whether you agree with SDG&E's past practices or their position as a corporate energy giant, you cannot (or should not) disagree that planning for San Diego's energy future is a good thing. If the lights ever go out, people cry foul at SDG&E. If SDG&E asks us to conserve energy, people cry that the company is bluffing to gain support for the PowerLink. If SDG&E plans to make better use of renewable energy sources, people complain that the company should focus on personal energy use instead. The company and its employees have developed a comprehensive plan for our region's energy supply, changed it due to public input and remain committed to the public process. It's unfortunate that so many people refuse to see progress and planning as a good thing.

    Posted by It's always something | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:20 am

    I wanted to thank Mike Niggli for his timely and insightful blog regarding the Sunrise Powerlink. I am glad SDG&E is working to raise awareness of this crucial transmission line project. The California Restaurant Association has endorsed the Sunrise Powerlink because reliable power is paramount for our members, many of whom are small businesses that rely on a steady stream of loyal customers to stay afloat. Obviously, without electricity, we can’t refrigerate food, light our dining rooms or run our air conditioners. So much of what people take for granted when they walk into a restaurant depends on electricity! When you consider whether you support the project or not, please consider the needs of San Diego’s small businesses.

    Posted by Katie Hansen | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:26 am

    The San Diego-Imperial Counties Labor Council supports the Sunrise Powerlink project for many reasons. The line will deliver reliable power to our region, keeping our economy strong and our workers employed. In addition, the line will provide San Diego with direct access to clean, renewable sources of electricity. The Imperial Valley has unparalleled potential for solar, wind and geothermal power that the Sunrise will bring to the San Diego region. Our members are integrally involved with major infrastructure projects including the construction of roads, water systems, energy systems and other critical projects that maintain our daily quality of life. We believe that new infrastructure projects, such as the Sunrise Powerlink transmission line, deserve thoughtful analysis, not knee-jerk opposition. We cannot afford another energy crisis like the summer of 2000 when our members were sent home without pay.

    Posted by AHarrison | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:36 am

    Katie is absolutely right. Securing reliable electricity for the San Diego region is of the utmost importance. Now more than ever, downtown and the entire San Diego region need the Sunrise Powerlink. It is the only energy infrastructure project that will provide reliable and renewable energy for San Diego. Moreover, the experts from the U.S. Dept. of Energy, the California Energy Commission and the California Independent System Operator have all said that new transmission in San Diego is needed and it’s needed now. The San Diego region needs projects like the Sunrise Powerlink to be approved and built as soon as possible.

    Posted by Todd Voorhees | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:43 am

    Plain and simple, the Sunrise Powerlink will bring much needed, reliable sources of energy to a region whose population – and appetite for power -- is growing rapidly. Also, the project will bring environmentally friendly energy generated by the sun, wind and steam heat from underneath the earth to San Diego. The environment is important to me and I support any sort of infrastructure that actually takes the environment into consideration. Let’s get this built.

    Posted by danielle | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:48 am

    They will never meet any 2010 mandate the way they are going. The statements that you can't do it with solar is questionable. Dozens of solar contractors are already working in the region. Kyocera has invested in major solar panel production coming online next year. This is the best opportunity for a new tech, clean tech economy in San Diego - and Tijuana. Not only that, rooftops don't require expensive environmental review - they are the largest amount of underutilized real estate in the City! It's cheaper and it also puts the capacity where you need it - peak hour heat waves. The ironically named "Sunrise" is old-paradigm, big bureaucracy, high cost, centralized thinking.

    Posted by Carolyn | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:50 am

    It’s easy to say no to a big ugly power line in your backyard. But the thing is, all of those people are going to continue to use electricity. All the people moving into those growing communities will need power, too. And their kids will, and their grandkids, too. So where do they think that power is going to come from? San Diego needs reliable power and the Sunrise Powerlink will bring that to our region. We need to get this project built before it’s too late.

    Posted by PB Guy | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:51 am

    Katie - consider that the best approach for many small businesses is to get control of their power and that also gives you control of your costs. Solar panels PAY BACK over the years and you don't have to worry about being cut off or price rises like you're members have experienced over the years - even pushing some of them out of business by the same folks you're now trusting. You may have noticed that they don't exactly get their own numbers straight and perhaps their goal is not 100% aligned with providing the least expensive alternative for the region. And there is no question that the best investment for all businesses is efficiency which pays backs very quickly.

    Posted by Carolyn | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 3:59 am

    We can not continue to rely on fossil fuel-powered plants to satisfy this regionâ??s growing appetite for electricity. The Sunrise Powerlink provides a solution to this problem. It not only brings in reliable power but also clean power. Bringing this green energy to the San Diego region would be a major victory for those of us who strongly believe that renewable energy is a key component of the success of this region.

    Posted by Melly | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 4:14 am

    just build the damn thing

    Posted by Mikey | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 5:45 am

    As another voice for small business, the San Ysidro Chamber of Commerce has also fully supported the proposed Sunrise Powerlink transmission line. Living as a dichotomy between extremely prosperous commerce and an underserved not-so-well-to-do community, San Ysidro cannot afford for a minute to be subject to power outages, shortages or failures. The San Ysidro Chamber of Commerce recognizes these needs and believes Sunrise Powerlink will help reduce energy costs in the region by reducing expensive transmission congestion, providing access to less expensive power, and reducing reliance on older and less-efficient power plants that are more expensive to operate. The San Ysidro Chamber of Commerce supports and encourages the proposed Sunrise Powerlink transmission line project

    Posted by San Ysidro Chamber | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 5:55 am

    So if the NIMBYs, enviros and UCAN succeed in killing this line, are they going to answer if/when we run out of power because of import limits? Will it be they who have to explain to the public that there's just not enough electricity available for them to run their two refrigerators and their plasma TVs and their AC in their 5,000 S.F. house in San Marcos? Somehow, I'm envisioning a lot of reporters standing in front of SDG&E's building demanding answers. And Michael Shames will probably be there to call the company irresponsible, collecting his intervenor fees (yes, consumers, you pay him!) while SDG&E takes the blame. Remember this in a few years!

    Posted by Reality Check | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 6:45 am

    Sunrise = CLEAN POWER from POINT A to POINT B.

    Posted by Bright like the Sun | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 7:25 am

    Thanks to Mike Niggli for taking the time to discuss the Sunrise Powerlink online. Mikes facts help to clear up the truths about the proposed powerlink. I work in the Food & Beverage Industry, and reliable electricity is an absolutely critical requirement for the restaurants that I work directly with. Even a brief power outage can wipe out the inventory/shut the doors of large and small businesses throughout the region. Taking chances with electricity supplies just doesen't make sense. Today their are two fires in the east county one of which is in proximity to the south west powerlink. With the right conditions it could pimare or even sever our primary supply line. Then what do we do? We need to understand the reality that we need another electric transmition line to make sure we have a reliable supply all the time,to keep our economy thriving and people working.

    Posted by Stephen Zolezzi | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 7:57 am

    MW, Two things...If so wouldn't this mean lower rates for SDGE's customers and doesn't SDGE still have to get rates approved by the CPUC?

    Posted by jdp69 | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 8:08 am

    Nimbys, C.A.V.E. people, and now the Sunrise Powerlink opponents are going BANANAs - Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.

    Posted by Joe | reply to this comment
    September 13, 2007 8:10 am

    Check out this link to see where the power is coming from. It is NOT Green Power. link

    Posted by Brian | reply to this comment
    September 14, 2007 3:01 am

    The Powerlink is NOT needed. We need in basin generation. All the needs can be met by generating the power in the area and not bringing it in from Mexico. SDG&E doesn't want this in basin generation because they do not own the power plants. They are the puppet of SEMPRA who wants the power they make in Mexico from natural gas they import to Mexico to go to LA and beyond. It has nothing to do with renewables, that is just smoke and mirrors to make the people feel better about spending $1.5 billon to line the pockets of SEMPRA. If they want renewables from Imperial County they only need to up grade the existing lines to handle this input, which by the way is not even close to being built.

    Posted by colobiker | reply to this comment
    September 14, 2007 3:14 am

    It is intellectually dishonest to claim that the existing utility in Anza-Borrego is anything like the proposed line--it's like comparing apples and bowling balls. The existing line consists of short wooden poles while the proposed line is a gargantuan metal monstrosity. We're talking about a state park here--some things should be off-limits to the ravages of the industrial age. Regarding the designated wilderness, while it's true that SDGE claims that they can now stay within their current right-of-way, the last time I saw their preferred route it still punched through wilderness. Wilderness is supposed to be forever. We can't start rolling it back whenever some well-heeled interest wants to make a buck.

    Posted by Ryan Henson | reply to this comment
    September 14, 2007 8:15 pm

    Well Ryan Henson I don’t know what power lines you are talking about. Currently, I can look out my front door and off in the distance I see a set of three steel towers than comprise the eastern transmission line—not a bunch of wooden poles as you state. Makes me wonder if you have ever visited East County—do you know where it is? Maybe you are just attempting to “pile-on” with the rest of these people who, for one reason or another, seem to think that additional electricity is a bad thing. Building any “in-basin” power plant is just not going to happen—too many NIMBY’s will make sure of that.

    Posted by Howiek | reply to this comment
    September 15, 2007 1:19 am

    5 years ago there were 8 geo thermal plants operating in the Imperial Valley, now there are 4. The proposed solar plants are just that,proposed. So where exactly, exactly please, specify where this renewable power from the Imperial Valley is to come from, gee I live here and I think I just might like to keeep it.

    Posted by the desert tower | reply to this comment
    September 15, 2007 8:00 am

    Dear Mike, Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me. (Fool me 1000 times?)

    Posted by the desert tower | reply to this comment
    September 15, 2007 8:19 am

    About Mike's misleading statement that San Diego is served by only one high voltage line. San Diego is an energy cul-de-sac bounded by the ocean and MX and is an appendage of LA for grid purposes. San Diego is served primarily by a 220kV grid interconnected with LA. 220kV is high voltage transmission. The entire SoCal region is served by an interstate network of 500kV lines. The 500kV lines to LA also serve SD. US grid maps available at link show that Denver (a similarly-sized metro area), for example, is not served by 500kV. Lines of higher than 220kV connect to the Denver grid but do so at distances comparable to that between SD and LA. Simple line counting is a meaningless way to justify spending over a billion dollars. SDG&E's blatant fear mongering is intended to frighten people into thinking that SDG&E’s solution is the best and only one.

    Posted by Hi Tension | reply to this comment
    September 15, 2007 10:32 am

    Can't help but notice the blaring Sempra Energy ad just across the page from Mr. Niggli's tower of babble. Coincidence?

    Posted by TY | reply to this comment
    September 16, 2007 1:10 pm

    As a person whos property is in the route of the Sunrise Powerlink, I can tell you from personal experience that SDG&E has lied to me time and time again. From the very beginning to now. Thier "facts" change everytime they speak to me. In the beginning they came out and wanted a 120' foot easement, that has changed to a 300' easement (the size of a football field) with NO explantion. They have gone from building by helicopter to now construction mile upon mile of access roads on land that has never been touched by a motor vehicle. This powerlink will cause destruction that CAN NEVER BE REPAIRED. There are better alternatives. Come on SDG&E and SEMPRA get it together !!

    Posted by KM | reply to this comment
    September 18, 2007 6:32 am

    The families in the back country have built thier ranches to conserve electricity. We have already GIVEN SDG&E THREE transmission lines across our property. It has been shown time and time again that this line is not needed. Mr. Niggili, like everyone else in SDG&E is too worried about his salary and retirement to have an honest opinion, and accepts being brainwashed by Sempra. THE ANZA BORREGO PARK IS NOT A MAJOR USER OF ELECTRICITY, THE FAMILIES IN SANTA YSABEL ARE NOT MAJOR USERS, BUT THEY ARE BEING AFFECTED THE MOST. There are better alternatives than destroying the little natural resources we have left in San Diego County

    Posted by Katy | reply to this comment
    September 18, 2007 6:39 am

    SAYING NO TO THE SUNRISE POWERLINK IS SAYING YES TO MAINTAINING THE LARGEST STATE PARK IN CALIFORNIA FOR PERPITUITY, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE MISSION OF THE STATE PARK SYSTEM. AS SAN DIEGO GROWS AND LOSES MORE AND MORE OF ITS BACKCOUNTRY THE PARK'S IMPORTANCE ONLY GROWS.

    Posted by anza borrego defender | reply to this comment
    September 20, 2007 3:22 pm

    MIKE - YOU ARE WRONG AND I THINK YOU KNOW IT TOO.

    Posted by respect | reply to this comment
    October 2, 2007 12:09 pm

    If the reason SDG&E and Sempra is threatening the private property owners along the route of the Sunrise Powerlink is to take their property for the public use, shouldn't the entire route be placed on public property??? Use the parks and the San Diego Preserve and every other property that the public owns if this line is truly for the good of the public. LEAVE THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS ALONE!!

    Posted by Private Property Owner | reply to this comment
    October 10, 2007 4:24 pm


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