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'Too Complicated, Too Difficult'

Published: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:33 PM PDT



Not long ago, La Prensa San Diego, a biweekly, bilingual newspaper endorsed Steve Francis for mayor.

It wasn't altogether surprising. La Prensa has never been a fan of Jerry Sanders, and it goes back years before Sanders was mayor. But here was the main reason La Prensa gave (emphasis mine):

La Prensa San Diego is encouraged by Francis’ commitment to focus Police Department efforts on critical law enforcement issues facing residents and not exhausting already strained resources on enforcing federal immigration law. He believes San Diego needs to have compassionate leadership and humane policies that treat people equally and will not divide the community for the sake of political gain.

I was a bit taken aback by this. After all, if true, Francis had committed to the paper to not enforce federal immigration laws with local police. And this would be interesting given Francis' plain statements otherwise.

In the first mayoral debate, in fact, Francis hammered the incumbent mayor for not participating in a federal grant program that would allow city police to start enforcing immigration laws. And in his sprawling policy tome "Steve Francis' Vision for San Diego," the mayoral candidate ties illegal immigration to terrorism threats and proposes a solution to protecting us from both (emphasis mine):

In the post 9/11 world, law enforcement must have greater tools and resources to protect citizens from harm, as first responders they are on the front line of the war on terrorism. Steve supports giving local police officers greater discretion in asking the immigration status of detainees and cooperating with federal officials if it will protect the lives and property of San Diegans.



And when Francis was talking with Roger Hedgecock, who has done all he can to push a movement based around the end of illegal immigration, Francis took the rhetoric up a notch.

If the police officer has pulled somebody over or has encountered somebody that they clearly know is an undocumented worker, you don't just hold the person for 20 minutes and then let them go, which is being done right now. You need to make sure that you turn them over to immigration officials. That's what you do. That's what you ought to do because they're violating the law.


So what's going on? How does this early (as in March) hard-core rhetoric about making sure undocumented immigrants are deported square with the "commitment" La Prensa cited that Francis was going to leave it alone and be "humane?"

I asked him to clarify.

He said that he was guilty in the past (again, as in March) of "giving short answers to difficult questions."

He has now had more time to think.

"I've come to appreciate how complicated the issue is," he said.

Meet Steve Francis, populist, embracer of nuance.

Francis said he still supports cooperating with the federal government as part of the 287(g) program that allows local governments to carry out local immigration enforcement and ostensibly provides some funding for them to do that. But he said he wouldn't do it until the Police Department had enough resources to dedicate sufficient efforts to it. And he wouldn't even do it then. He'd let the police do immigration things only after he convened local Latino leaders, police and immigration officials in some kind of summit on the issue.

"We need to get consensus to decide on outcomes," Francis said. He said he didn't want to cause "racial strife" -- hence the need to bring Latino leaders to the table to somehow negotiate a compromise.

So I asked what if these Latino leaders are perfectly fine with the status quo where officers do not enforce federal immigration law? "That's not a reasonable position," Francis said.

Why? He said that the city of San Diego is considered a "sanctuary city" and that's not acceptable.

On the other hand, he wouldn't commit to what he thinks that means. And the talk is dangerous.

"I'm very concerned that in order to satisfy certain people who have very strong feelings about immigration, we're going to get into racial profiling and that's what I don't want," Francis said.

So, there you go. Yes, enforce federal immigration law locally, just not until we have enough money to do it and only if Latino leaders, the police and immigration officials agree to a consensus and only if that is the consensus they come to. Oh yeah, and Francis is still in favor of contracting police to enforce federal immigration laws through the 287(g) program, just not until we have enough money to do it and only if Latino leaders, the police and immigration officials agree to a consensus and only if that is the consensus they come to.

I think the truth is a little less nuanced. Francis' instinct before his great leftist epiphany was to hammer Sanders from the right and take advantage of some of the visceral political power that comes from the anti-immigrant sentiment. He started to go with it. But when he began courting Latino union members, and Spanish-language outlets and others in the community, he was confronted with the other side of the debate.

He realized that hard-core Lou Dobbs and Roger Hedgecock-style immigrant baiting wasn't going to fit well with his compassion thing. So he's trying to back away. He's trying to find a middle in this mess. And, yes, he realizes his "thinking about it more" is going to be hard for people to swallow.

"If you take a reasoned approach on this issue, no one is going to be happy with you," Francis said.

-- SCOTT LEWIS




30 Comments so far on this story...

Oh, brother. Let's be clear: Francis is a flip-flopping opportunist - a faux populist who takes us for fools. And apparently many of us voters are indeed fools, as we've seen Francis's support go up in response to those mind-numbingly lame commercials. Francis is a classic cynic, who thinks little of the common man, and assumes that he can simply spend money to change our minds about him. It will work with many, but not with most. This pathetic caricature of a smarmy politician will be $4 million poorer on June 5, with nothing but utter humiliation to show for it. Oh, and zero chance of coming back in 2012. Best, Algernon

Posted by Algernon Sidney | reply to this comment
May 12, 2008 7:45 pm

The walls are beginning to crack. If it is true about Francis embracing the hard working immigrants, then there's only two other major areas he needs to deal with to get elected: not sell off the city to private interests trying to cut the budget, and gain control of the land use decisions and place that power into the hands of the myriad communities comprising San Diego.

Posted by Christopher Hall | reply to this comment
May 12, 2008 8:27 pm

This topic is just one of many flip flops Steve Francis has made during his second run for Mayor. Francis talks out of both sides of his mouth on every issue presented. His flip flop on employee issues, taxes, raises and unions are a joke. To think several unions have taken the bait Steve has dangled in front of them is astonishing. I read and re-read "Howdy Doody's" answers to the immigration issues related to 287(g). Am I the only one who sees this man is nothing more than a willow blowing in the wind? If the wind is blowing from the coast he takes the conservative side of an issue and if the wind is from the east he takes that position most likely on the left or liberal position. Who is this man? I know what he is not; the person we need running this City.

Posted by Steve McMillan | reply to this comment
May 12, 2008 8:47 pm

Ad after ad we're seeing on tv talk of "special interests". can someone provide us with a definition? I would think that the definition includes more than just developers. doesn't it include any organization that advocates just one position like the sierra club, labor councils/unions, etc. i don't diminish the impact large development has on our quality of life, but last i checked, that isn't what's brought our city to the brink of bankruptcy. personally i'm more concerned with the financial damage already caused by the council towing the union line and seeing today how out of touch they are with the budget reality continues to amaze me. raises are earned, not entitled.

Posted by Ken Adams | reply to this comment
May 12, 2008 9:25 pm

Sad, I wanted to see the last post discussed more. Damn! (yes this is a test) This one is certainly a pickle. Good luck Steve-o. This politicking stuff is pretty tough huh... Kind of like running a city. hmmm.. go figure, it ain't like a business. It's more like a love affair with 1.3 million people because its so darn personal to everybody. Life sucks when a dozen roses doesn't get you off the hook and theres all these feelings flying around.

Posted by Basic Civics | reply to this comment
May 12, 2008 9:54 pm

I thought it was against the law for a politician to interfere and use his position to direct police in their duties ie" Geo. Stevens circa 1986. If Frances or anyone else thinks this problem is 'too complicated' then they are not prepared to handle the job of mayor, and definitely not one of a police officer or fireperson who has to make IMMEDIATE life and death decisions, often several times a week.

Posted by hummmm | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 6:38 am

Ken, Here's your definition: Special interest-any group that opposes your special interest.

Posted by Captain T | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 8:30 am

Shouldn't we just enforce the existing laws? I don't see how this issue is so confusing to the talking heads. Stop making new stupid laws like no drinking on the beach and enforce more serious and existing laws, like illegal immigration, and we wouldn't have this discussion.

Posted by Enforce the Law | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 8:40 am

If Steve Francis has developed a more "nuanced" view on illegal immigration, chalk it up to learning on the campaign trail. That's not a bad thing, Scott Lewis; it's a good thing. We learn something from meeting Latino leaders and labor leaders and from grappling with insoluble issues that, in fact, have little to do with being Mayor of this city. You sound disappointed that Francis is not black-and-white on this one. I hope the voters get rid of Mayor Sanders and bring in Mayor Francis. If he doesn't perform in four years -- as much time as Sanders has had to accomplish nada -- we can toss Francis out too. In time, the citizenry will get it right.

Posted by Fed Up for Francis | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 9:42 am

A special interest is a view or attitude that is in conflict with the common or public good. The debate has not about how to achieve policy that works for everybody (which is the common good), it has been about certain interests getting their piece of the pie. Pursuing the common good is the path understanding synthesis, to sustainable development and holistic society; yet the challenge in San Diego is that we barely invite those concepts into the civic arena. Hence, the battle of special interests while the public is left in the cold.

Posted by GHJohn | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 9:47 am

Steve Francis is a newly grown hybrid flower of the flip flopping John Kerry and the $300 haircut John Edwards. His Ken doll looks will not be enough to convince the citizenry that he is up to the task of reforming this city. Look what Mr. Lewis has uncovered already. Thank goodness people are seeing him for what he is. It amazes me that people love to start things and not see them through. Take for example the San Diego Institute for Policy Research being founding by Steve Francis. I want to know what happened to his think tank polling (push polling)?? His policy papers?? The objective research?? What happened to his ideas factory?? I mean one moment the guy is throwing money in for reform ideas and the next moment he is running for mayor. I think ethic violations are in order. Don't forget about Francis's water bills!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Business Reply Mail | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 10:42 am

Wow, nice job Scott Lewis. Again the Voice leaves the union-tribune in the dust by exposing a phony want-to-be politican. Should the Voice dare dig a little deeper on Stevie Francis? I think we'll find he's one giant contridiction. Say what you want about Donna Frye and Jerry Sanders, but at least they have convictions and honestly stand by their positions. Flip flop Steve will say anything to anyone to get elected. I feel sorry for those folks who have endorsed him. They're going to get burned.

Posted by Scott M | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 10:55 am

Ken Adams,since the firefighters' union advocates both for firefighters and for increasing fire protection does that mean we're not a special interest?That's two separate issues.You say developers have not broken the city.How much has the city had to pay for infrastructure upgrades that developers did not pay for?How much money did the city lose out on by not charging the going rate for properties such as NTC?How much money is the city losing out on by undercharging in business taxes for humongous apartment complexes?City worker pay and benefits is indeed part of the problem... but only part of the issue.We must all work together to solve the funding problems.

Posted by JF | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 11:10 am

Hey Fed Up For Francis: Obviously, you aren't very involved. Mayor Sanders took over the unfinished term of Dick Murphy. He has only been in office 2 1/2 years. Given the situation at City hall, I think it is time to give someone making changes a chance. The idea that this city should just elect someone new every four year until they "get it right" is absurd. No wonder people consider San Diego a town instead of a city...

Posted by Capitol | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 11:34 am

Business Reply Mail - SDI is still here, active, and univolved in the Mayor's race. For some of our recent activities feel free to go to link

Posted by Erik Bruvold | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 11:39 am

I was recently asked at a Party gathering, by one of Francis' campaign operatives, if I would support his candidacy. I basically said, "No, not this time around, I'm already supporting Sanders. But I might be very much inclined to support Francis in 2012." Well, things can really change, quite quickly, and quite dramatically. Francis' opportunistic, "I'll do or say anything it takes", 180-degree flip-flops leave me dismayed and deeply disappointed. Sorry, Steve, your lack of fundamental principles and beliefs has turned me off, for good. Either a person possesses a core set of beliefs and virtues, or not. Francis, apparently, does not.

Posted by Robert | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 1:21 pm

Mr. Bruvold I have a few questions for you because I need some clarification. How come Steve Francis is no where to be found on the SD Institute website? It clearly says Chairman's Corner on the economic ledgers with a nice picture of Steve as well as stating on the last page that SDI is an LLC. Does Steve still own SD Institute? Also, if you were an uninvolved private corporation owned by Steve Francis in the Mayor's race how come the polling conducted by your organization entails questions about city official approval ratings and has not released a poll since Steve announced his mayoral candidacy? WHY HAS THE POLLING STOPPED? The polling questions you ask are clearly political in nature. There also seems to be a drop off in work released by the institute since Steve's candidacy, is that at the pressure of Chairman Francis?? Please clarify these issues.

Posted by J | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 2:32 pm

10. GHJohn wrote on May 13, 2008 9:47 AM: "A special interest is a view or attitude that is in conflict with the common or public good........ That was a gold mine, and on the money (PS The FF union is a special interest JF)!

Posted by Billy Bob Henry | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 3:06 pm

Sorry, Capitol,you are correct: it just feels like four years of Jerry Sanders. Okay, two and a half years of nada. On the core values question: I really would like to hear somebody describe Jerry Sanders' "core set of beliefs and virtues." As far as I can tell, Sanders is a classic example of the Peter Principle at work and, unfortunately, a puppet for the same old boys who have been running this show for years and years with one surrogate or another. I am willing to take a chance on Francis and, if there's no there there, off with his head after one term. I think that's infinitely preferable to sticking with a known loser.

Posted by Fed Up for Francis | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 3:24 pm

I don't know anybody supporting Sanders at this point in time. My circle of friends view him as unethical, secretive, and unproductive. A man who has accomplished nothing to date other than run some very good people out of public service by allowing the likes of Fred Sainz to run the show in the mayor's office. He wasn't a good police chief and he's not a good mayor. He's weak and ineffectual.

Posted by Larry | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 3:43 pm

I used to not like Francis or dislike him, but now I just can't stomach the man! He's such a transparent, unrepentant panderer. I don't understand how he could think he's fooling people. Obviously a few Sanders-haters are in his corner, but does he seriously think he can unseat a fairly likable incumbent by this kind of expedience? He stands for nothing! Even when he agrees with you, you can't trust that he'll think the same way next month. He's playing a numbers game issue by issue -- what will the largest number of people respond positively to? -- without any strategy or principles or thought. He's such a disaster -- this could be a case study on how NOT to run a campaign. Sanders isn't even fighting him -- just letting him spend millions to hang himself. San Diego: If this is your best and brightest, abandon all hope!

Posted by From indifference to disgust | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 4:18 pm

What self-absorption must one be enveloped in for the last several years to not have realized that immigration is a complicated issue? Mr. Francis is either purposefully obtuse (which seems unlikely), or so politically cynical that he has convinced himself that we voters can be so easily fooled (likely). Is he right? One would hope not, but his numbers have gone up with the frequency of his silly television ads. He claims Sanders hasn't solved the worst crisis in San Diego's history in the 27 months he's had in office, yet we should give Francis a pass on his failure to even recognize the difficulty in the most obvious of issues? Give me a break. There are times in which it is wise to change horses midstream, but they are few and this time is not even close. Francis is lying to us, and does not deserve a chance.

Posted by Algernon Sidney | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 6:52 pm

I understand your nausea and I feel your pain. But really, Jerry Sanders, "a fairly likable incumbent?" What you say about Francis could be said about Sanders in spades. We are being so had. Wake up. Try a new approach. Hold your nose and vote for Francis: I have been doing this for years in the hope that change is good and sends a message to the packagers and puppeteers.

Posted by Fed Up for Francis | reply to this comment
May 13, 2008 10:49 pm

Sanders may be a "nice guy", and that got him appointed as police chief by corrupt city manager Jack McGrory, the power behind the throne in San Diego. But Mr. Nice Guy has let Mr. Bad Guy Fred Sainz run his administration. The only accomplishment has been to demonize Aguirre. Personally, I'll take a chance on Flip Flopping Francis. He may be an unknown, but we KNOW Sanders has done nothing to help this city out of its mess, and his beholden to the McGrory's of this city.

Posted by Fred Williams | reply to this comment
May 14, 2008 8:19 am

J that was the greatest post. I think those questions need to be asked and answered. We are all waiting Erik Bruvold for the answers. Clock is ticking Erik. Tick Tick Tick . . . . . . Everyone wants to investigate Fred Sainz emails, then you better investigate the tie between Francis's think tank and his mayoral run. Let us not forget about their push polling! I guess it is just a technical error that the Chairman/Founder's page of the SDI website is not active. Francis is a banana and everyone has seen this clear as day. Let us get this over on June 3rd and be rid of those Francis commercials infecting our homes every hour on the hour. Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08 Jerry '08

Posted by Business Reply Mail | reply to this comment
May 14, 2008 9:41 am

Scott, you say: "La Prensa has never been a fan of Jerry Sanders, and it goes back years before Sanders was mayor." Yes, back to July 18, 1984, the day of the San Ysidro McDonalds massacre, a date that no Sanders' supporter wants mentioned. La Prensa on the other hand can never forget it. Who can blame them? Here is link what La Prensa had to say in 2005 about Sanders' involvement in that tragic event that left 22 dead and 15 seriously wounded, an event that should never have happened. It is why I could never support Sanders.

Posted by Pat Flannery | reply to this comment
May 15, 2008 10:43 am

Hey, Fed Up, I'm not suggesting Jerry is a visionary. I said he was "fairly likable" -- speaking to his potential as a candidate, not his job performance. At the outset, I thought he'd be a calming presence at best. It turns out he hasn't brought a lot of calm, but that's partly because we have a Tazmanian Devil in the city attorney's office. That our fiscal woes -- built up over decades, really -- haven't been solved is not a reason to vote in yet ANOTHER person with no real vision. What evidence do we have that Francis can tackle fiscal disaster? His business has ridden a MARKET-CREATED wave to prosperity -- a nursing shortage caused by more opportunities for women, which took them out of nursing. I'd like to see how the business would come tough times. THEN we could judge his stripes for this enormous challenge.

Posted by From indifference to disgust | reply to this comment
May 15, 2008 11:28 am

So he hasn't earned his stripes by steering anything through a tough time, AND he's done a 180 from his campaign less than three years ago, AND he has no clear vision, AND he's promising to take his eye off the ball and get into solving problems that are not in the mayor's jurisdiction. He's clearly in this for the ego -- to ride around with security detail in a black-windowed SUV. Sanders is no prize, but Francis has absolutely nothing to offer to have us throw Sanders out. Eric Bidwell, on the other hand ...

Posted by From indifference to disgust | reply to this comment
May 15, 2008 11:39 am

Pat Flannery's post is pathetic. James Huberty is the ONLY person responsible for the deaths of 22 people and the wounding of 15. Mayor Sanders who was in charge of the SWAT Team at the time of this tragic incident. It is easy to second guess a person who is making decisions based on the available information AT THAT TIME. To sit in the comfort of your home or office and evaluate information gathered in totality is always easier. Pat; have you ever had to make decisions involving human life in split seconds based on rapidly changing information? Until you have; save your diatribes for yours and Aguirre's Blog. Sanders was and is a person who supports and has shown his care and concern for Hispanics, African Americans, as well as all other immigrants living in San Diego. He has voiced his position related to 287(g) clearly and firmly.

Posted by Steve McMillan | reply to this comment
May 15, 2008 8:54 pm

Well Flannery...at least you didn't post as Norman this time. Sanders will win this election easily. Francis is just taking a page from the book of Obama in an attempt to not actually have to take a position on any issue. Either one will prove to be a nightmare.

Posted by Steve | reply to this comment
May 24, 2008 2:30 pm


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